>It's almost got the point that I have to send plants to the >upper midwest to see if they are hardy in Zone 7...geez. > >Tony Dear Tony, Adam and all - Actually I am surprised that this does so well even in your Zone 7! I grow Sprekelia and 'Orient Red' and give them appropriate summer heat and winter dry. They multiply and bloom fairly regularly. Let me know when you want to try a plant up here in Zone 5. I'll make a place, but .... I remain doubtful. Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +