Note: This email was sent to the wrong address yesterday and I just now noticed it so am forwarding it to the list. In my experience, Z. grandiflora is seed-sterile and pollen-fertile. The question is whether the species is self-incompatible, or if something is wrong with the embryo sacs, or even if there has been a change in the gametic DNA imprinting so that it is not able to produce endosperm. A clearing study with methyl salicylate or an optimized mixture of butyl benzoate and dibutyl phthalate could easily determine if the embryo sacs are mature and structurally normal at anthesis, but it would require a specialized differential interference-contrast or confocal microscope. Such a study could also determine if fertilization and incipient endosperm divisions occur before the ovary aborts. Also in my experience, Z. macrosiphon flowers are similar to Z. grandiflora, except for the stigmatic placement. This apomictic species sets maternal seed abundantly and does not offset like Z. grandiflora. Charles Crane