Sent from Janet’s I phone > On Jun 10, 2018, at 6:26 PM, pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net wrote: > > Send pbs mailing list submissions to > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." > > > List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Six feet tall and blooming in Portland: What is it? > (Shmuel Silinsky) > 2. Drimia/Urginea maritima (Nathan Lange) > 3. Re: Six feet tall and blooming in Portland: What is it? > (Charles Powne) > 4. Re: Drimia/Urginea maritima (Paul LICHT) > 5. Re: Six feet tall and blooming in Portland: What is it? > (Paul LICHT) > 6. Re: Six feet tall and blooming in Portland: What is it? > (Luminita vollmer) > 7. six ft tall in Portland (Jane Sargent) > 8. Hippestrelia hybrids (Steve Evans) > 9. Re: Hippestrelia hybrids (Tim Eck) > 10. Re: Hippestrelia hybrids (Steve Evans) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 22:34:50 +0300 > From: Shmuel Silinsky <gardenbetter@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Six feet tall and blooming in Portland: What is it? > Message-ID: > <CACHBJeFPJsrDxoPEmPzFZQgw1UfNmEbru7DRHtkrtA2duXuqUw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Drimia maritima is native here in Israel. Leaves are winter, early spring > and flowers (white only) are late summer. June seems pretty early. Why > would they bloom so early in California? > > Shmuel Silinsky > Jerusalem > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 12:45:24 -0700 > From: Nathan Lange <plantsman@comcast.net> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Drimia/Urginea maritima > Message-ID: > <mailman.230.1528659926.519.pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > > Paul, > > California microclimates never cease to amaze. I wonder why your > plants flower so early. Do they flower about in April/May every year, > never any later? > > Nathan > > > At 12:18 PM 6/10/2018, you wrote: >> Nathan >> I have both Merwilla and Drimia (which I still refer to as Urginea). They >> are completely different, The Merwill hasn't even sent up buds yet and >> looks entirely different. The Urginea have enormous bulbs, wider leaves and >> of course, the bulbs are entirely different. I've had the Urginea for 5yrs >> or more. Several started as relatively large bulbs and others from small >> offsets; all from Tim Gregory. His in Woodside do not bloom as early as >> mine in El Cerrito, The leaves are almost fully dried back now and will >> remain dormant. Some will get a little water because they're mixed with >> other stuff. For some reason, I never bothered to photograph the flowers. >> >> Paul >> >> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Nathan Lange <plantsman@comcast.net> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Paul, >>> >>> Your plants sound very interesting and significantly deviate from anything >>> I've ever seen before. Do you have pictures? What is the source of your >>> plants? Approximately, when did the foliage die back this year? The foliage >>> on my non-irrigated plants was still green a month ago. >>> >>> The established colonies of bulbs in the Sacramento area (hot dry summers) >>> that I've seen consistently flower in late July into August. Plants in >>> cooler Sonoma County flower much later with the flowering times seemingly >>> correlated with when the foliage dies back. I have never seen a plant in >>> flower before July. >>> >>> Sometimes, I get one of the old names, Scilla maritima, mixed up with >>> Scilla natalensis (Merwilla plumbea) which, in my experience, better fits >>> the flowering time you described. Any possibility of that? I feel compelled >>> to ask because April/May flowering Drimia maritima is really unusual. >>> >>> Does anyone else grow Drimia maritima in California that flower before >>> June? >>> >>> Nathan >>> >>> >>> At 08:03 AM 6/10/2018, you wrote: >>> >>>> I have 6 or more in my Berkeley area garden. They are multiplying a bit >>>> too >>>> fast. All bloomed this year and blooming finished about a month ago. The >>>> leaves are now dying back. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 13:21:55 -0700 > From: Charles Powne <iyou@mac.com> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: Re: [pbs] Six feet tall and blooming in Portland: What is it? > Message-ID: <E9C1257D-143D-43D7-ADDF-F2C5069B07A9@mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Thank you for posting the photo for me, David, and for the identification. Thanks as well to Bob Nold for the further confirmation of the name. This group is amazing. > > > Charles Powne > iyou@me.com > https://map.what3words.com/extend.storm.palace > USDA zone 8b > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 13:38:30 -0700 > From: Paul LICHT <plicht@berkeley.edu> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Drimia/Urginea maritima > Message-ID: > <CAEFbX2RYZ2sMfbQjqK_fDZep6KC5-QrgzPp78BwgvJx482c=Wg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > so far. > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 12:45 PM, Nathan Lange <plantsman@comcast.net> > wrote: > >> >> Paul, >> >> California microclimates never cease to amaze. I wonder why your plants >> flower so early. Do they flower about in April/May every year, never any >> later? >> >> Nathan >> >> >> At 12:18 PM 6/10/2018, you wrote: >> >>> Nathan >>> I have both Merwilla and Drimia (which I still refer to as Urginea). They >>> are completely different, The Merwill hasn't even sent up buds yet and >>> looks entirely different. The Urginea have enormous bulbs, wider leaves >>> and >>> of course, the bulbs are entirely different. I've had the Urginea for >>> 5yrs >>> or more. Several started as relatively large bulbs and others from small >>> offsets; all from Tim Gregory. His in Woodside do not bloom as early as >>> mine in El Cerrito, The leaves are almost fully dried back now and will >>> remain dormant. Some will get a little water because they're mixed with >>> other stuff. For some reason, I never bothered to photograph the flowers. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 11:35 AM, Nathan Lange <plantsman@comcast.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Paul, >>>> >>>> Your plants sound very interesting and significantly deviate from >>> anything >>>> I've ever seen before. Do you have pictures? What is the source of your >>>> plants? Approximately, when did the foliage die back this year? The >>> foliage >>>> on my non-irrigated plants was still green a month ago. >>>> >>>> The established colonies of bulbs in the Sacramento area (hot dry >>> summers) >>>> that I've seen consistently flower in late July into August. Plants in >>>> cooler Sonoma County flower much later with the flowering times >>> seemingly >>>> correlated with when the foliage dies back. I have never seen a plant in >>>> flower before July. >>>> >>>> Sometimes, I get one of the old names, Scilla maritima, mixed up with >>>> Scilla natalensis (Merwilla plumbea) which, in my experience, better >>> fits >>>> the flowering time you described. Any possibility of that? I feel >>> compelled >>>> to ask because April/May flowering Drimia maritima is really unusual. >>>> >>>> Does anyone else grow Drimia maritima in California that flower before >>>> June? >>>> >>>> Nathan >>>> >>>> >>>> At 08:03 AM 6/10/2018, you wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have 6 or more in my Berkeley area garden. They are multiplying a bit >>>>> too >>>>> fast. All bloomed this year and blooming finished about a month ago. >>> The >>>>> leaves are now dying back. >>>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pbs mailing list >>>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>>> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pbs mailing list >>> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >>> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 13:39:27 -0700 > From: Paul LICHT <plicht@berkeley.edu> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Six feet tall and blooming in Portland: What is it? > Message-ID: > <CAEFbX2Qg57Aaiyxw4fATB59Kdjujpt4bFuhV90j2g9iBTkejpw@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Who knows? Berkeley is a special place I guess > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Shmuel Silinsky <gardenbetter@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Drimia maritima is native here in Israel. Leaves are winter, early spring >> and flowers (white only) are late summer. June seems pretty early. Why >> would they bloom so early in California? >> >> Shmuel Silinsky >> Jerusalem >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 16:50:45 -0500 > From: Luminita vollmer <luminita.vollmer@gmail.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Six feet tall and blooming in Portland: What is it? > Message-ID: > <CAJso_==VzMMENvhyX3L-ubYxec4s1uArKro2xweU8pvO7Uo8gg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi everyone - one amazing group! How can I give back? i just take in and > take in. > Never seen any big bulbs except in books, pictures, videos. My biggest > bulbs are giant red cannas, in a good year! > > ;) > > Luminita > >> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Charles Powne <iyou@mac.com> wrote: >> >> Thank you for posting the photo for me, David, and for the identification. >> Thanks as well to Bob Nold for the further confirmation of the name. This >> group is amazing. >> >> >> Charles Powne >> iyou@me.com >> https://map.what3words.com/extend.storm.palace >> USDA zone 8b >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 17:51:15 -0400 > From: Jane Sargent <jane@deskhenge.com> > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Subject: [pbs] six ft tall in Portland > Message-ID: <3a799d59-41f3-e4b6-cee3-4207de3a81cb@deskhenge.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > I actually grew this plant here in Zone 5 Massachusetts, but lost it > after a couple of years, perhaps because I didn't seek out a > microclimate for it (I've grown craftier.) It's an eremurus. It didn't > have a bulb at all, more a starfish of bloated roots, making it kind of > a pain to plant. I got it from some commercial source, probably Brent > and Becky's Bulbs. They have always sent me good stuff. > > Jane Sargent > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 22:00:05 +0000 (UTC) > From: Steve Evans <steve_e41@yahoo.com> > To: "pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net" > <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: [pbs] Hippestrelia hybrids > Message-ID: <2075316988.3239686.1528668005281@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I recently bloomed a hybrid I made by crossing Hippeastrum Apple Blossom with Hippestrelia Durga Pradhan.? The result was a scape bearing a single flower about 5" diameter.? I self pollinated it and have a healthy seed pod.? Does any one have experience with F3 hybrids of this?Steve in Oklahoma > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 20180522_192354.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 1894538 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 18:19:49 -0400 > From: "Tim Eck" <teck11@embarqmail.com> > To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Hippestrelia hybrids > Message-ID: <000001d40109$26221bd0$72665370$@embarqmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Steve, > I think it would be better classified as a BC1F2 (Sprekelia crossed and backcrossed to Hippeastrum and selfed), assuming Durga Pradhan was an F1. And even that assumes that all the Hippeastrum involved were the same species. > David Lehmiller has done a lot of Sprekelia intergeneric crosses but I don't know anyone else. > Tim Eck > > ?Time is nature?s way of preventing everything from happening at once.? > Anon. > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of >> Steve Evans via pbs >> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:00 PM >> To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> Cc: Steve Evans >> Subject: [pbs] Hippestrelia hybrids >> >> I recently bloomed a hybrid I made by crossing Hippeastrum Apple Blossom >> with Hippestrelia Durga Pradhan. The result was a scape bearing a single >> flower about 5" diameter. I self pollinated it and have a healthy seed >> pod. Does any one have experience with F3 hybrids of this?Steve in Oklahoma >> >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 20180522_192354.jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 1894538 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: >> <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… >> 9f5c7/attachment.jpg> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 22:26:00 +0000 (UTC) > From: Steve Evans <steve_e41@yahoo.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> > Subject: Re: [pbs] Hippestrelia hybrids > Message-ID: <129303309.3231170.1528669560986@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Thanks.? Without knowing the exact makeup of Durga Pradhan this makes sense.? My plant does have narrower foliage than me Durga Pradhan.? Also the flower showed more of a Sprekelia influence.?? > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 17:19, Tim Eck<teck11@embarqmail.com> wrote: Steve, > I think it would be better classified as a BC1F2 (Sprekelia crossed and backcrossed to Hippeastrum and selfed), assuming Durga Pradhan was an F1.? And even that assumes that all the Hippeastrum involved were the same species. > David Lehmiller has done a lot of Sprekelia intergeneric crosses but I don't know anyone else. > Tim Eck > > ?Time is nature?s way of preventing everything from happening at once.? > Anon. > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of >> Steve Evans via pbs >> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:00 PM >> To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> Cc: Steve Evans >> Subject: [pbs] Hippestrelia hybrids >> >> I recently bloomed a hybrid I made by crossing Hippeastrum Apple Blossom >> with Hippestrelia Durga Pradhan.? The result was a scape bearing a single >> flower about 5" diameter.? I self pollinated it and have a healthy seed >> pod.? Does any one have experience with F3 hybrids of this?Steve in Oklahoma >> >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: 20180522_192354.jpg >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 1894538 bytes >> Desc: not available >> URL: >> <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/… >> 9f5c7/attachment.jpg> >> _______________________________________________ >> pbs mailing list >> pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net >> http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > > > ------------------------------ > > End of pbs Digest, Vol 16, Issue 13 > *********************************** _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/…
