Hi all, this is my first attempt at a response so I hope I got it right. To (hopefully) answer Jane’s original question, the book by Goldblatt and Manning, Gladiolus in Southern Africa, lists the name Gladiolus saundersii as originating from plant collector Thomas Cooper naming the species in honour of his employer W. Wilson Saunders, Esq., of Reginate, England. It most probable that all the saundersii in various genera described around a similar time (late 1800s to early 1900s) were given the name for the same reason. I'm by no means an expert, just a theory based on what I've read. Kind regards Dean MoonGreen From: pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Sent: Friday, 15 June 2018 1:19 PM To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: pbs Digest, Vol 16, Issue 19 Send pbs mailing list submissions to pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to pbs-request@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net You can reach the person managing the list at pbs-owner@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of pbs digest..." List-Post:<mailto:pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net List-Archive:<http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php Today's Topics: 1. ornithogalum (Jane Sargent) 2. Re: ornithogalum (LISA ZANKOWSKI) 3. Re: ornithogalum (Jim McKenney) 4. Re: ornithogalum (Shoal Creek Succulents) 5. Re: Mole rats (Tim Eck) 6. Re: ornithogalum (pelarg@aol.com) 7. Rachel Saunders (Hansen Nursery) 8. Re: Smithiantha TS-B5 (Anna Mae Miller) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 17:02:28 -0400 From: Jane Sargent <jane@deskhenge.com> To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: [pbs] ornithogalum Message-ID: <7ae84e65-4b32-b05a-8a26-c16346e5e63d@deskhenge.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed I was wondering whether anybody knew whether Ornithogalum saundersiae had been named after our Saunders? And what zone it would be possible to grow it in? And where to buy it? Jane Sargent ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 16:13:05 -0500 From: LISA ZANKOWSKI <scsnursery1@gmail.com> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Subject: Re: [pbs] ornithogalum Message-ID: <CA+38oKL7-XUtGe5oxrBEUVDMZ-mqdxGNoZiSNEix3U9W1Dyosg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Jane- I have it for sale, and i have one blooming now that i have intended to use for verification. After I verify, i will attempt to post a picture. I don?t know what zone it may survive, here only GH grown. Best regards, Lisa Shoal Creek Succulents On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 4:02 PM Jane Sargent <jane@deskhenge.com> wrote: > I was wondering whether anybody knew whether Ornithogalum saundersiae > had been named after our Saunders? > > And what zone it would be possible to grow it in? > > And where to buy it? > > Jane Sargent > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 21:19:24 +0000 (UTC) From: Jim McKenney <jamesamckenney@verizon.net> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Subject: Re: [pbs] ornithogalum Message-ID: <720437575.5694576.1529011164613@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Jane asked "?I was wondering whether anybody knew whether Ornithogalum saundersiae?had been named after our Saunders?? "? The author of the name, Baker, died in 1920, before Rachel was born.?Jim McKenney ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 16:40:22 -0500 From: Shoal Creek Succulents <scsnursery1@gmail.com> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Subject: Re: [pbs] ornithogalum Message-ID: <FCBEBC85-2607-4023-8984-375EE0DEC0A6@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In reading how to post a picture, I also read about commercial messages. The intent was more to say I know where to get it...:D. Not so much to advertise. Sorry. I have attached pictures of the flower and of the plant. I bought from Silverhill, seeds sown 7-10-12. The picture and the actual plant match the description. I found a website that contains info on the plant (White Flower Farm) and they indicate that plants need to be lifted in the fall in zone 6 and colder zones. On the plants that I have, I now realize they need a lot more water than I have been giving them. The plant in the pic receives condensation that drips on the plant. The rest I have are not as large. A cool flower and plant, but large! Best regards, Lisa -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image1.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 497303 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image2.jpeg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1277067 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/pipermail/pbs/…> -------------- next part -------------- > On Jun 14, 2018, at 4:02 PM, Jane Sargent <jane@deskhenge.com> wrote: > > I was wondering whether anybody knew whether Ornithogalum saundersiae had been named after our Saunders? > > And what zone it would be possible to grow it in? > > And where to buy it? > > Jane Sargent > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 17:59:43 -0400 From: "Tim Eck" <teck11@embarqmail.com> To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Subject: Re: [pbs] Mole rats Message-ID: <000901d4042b$01602510$04206f30$@embarqmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Leo, Cute but not provable. Perhaps I should have said their probability of dying over a time interval remains constant. For example actuarial tables will tell you a 30 year old human will have about one chance in a thousand of dying within the next year while a hundred year old human will have about one chance in two of dying in the next year. This is not the case for naked mole rats. While no other rats are known to live to be 30, a thirty year old naked mole rat has the same probability of dying in the next year as a three year naked mole rat. Tim Eck "Eternity is a very long time, especially the part near the end" Woody Allen > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net] On Behalf Of > oooOIOooo via pbs > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 1:12 PM > To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > Cc: oooOIOooo > Subject: Re: [pbs] Mole rats > > > Their probability of dying remains constant. Regardless of age. > > ? Every organism studied to date has a probability of dying of 100%. > > Leo Martin > Phoenix Arizona USA > Zone 9? > > Sent from ProtonMail mobile > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net > http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 20:51:00 -0400 From: pelarg@aol.com To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: Re: [pbs] ornithogalum Message-ID: <16400ec8fe2-c92-35b@webjasstg-vab17.srv.aolmail.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Its not hardy here in NY and prone to rot in cool wet weather. Easy to lift though and usually carried by Brent and Becky's among other suppliers of spring bulbs. I just got some from there half price sale this year as I hadnt grown them for a few years, so now it is probably harder to find bulbs as the bulb companies have mostly sold stock for spring planting. Seeds can also be found from S African vendors and in the various rock garden society seed exchanges in late fall. Ernie DeMarie in NY where those 10 Ornithogalum saundersiae are just breaking the ground in my recently expanded S African garden in the back. Rhodohypoxis are continuing to bloom well and the first Eucomis montana are coming up, the eucomis are always the last thing to come up after winter. -----Original Message----- From: Jane Sargent <jane@deskhenge.com> To: pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Sent: Thu, Jun 14, 2018 5:02 pm Subject: [pbs] ornithogalum I was wondering whether anybody knew whether Ornithogalum saundersiae had been named after our Saunders? And what zone it would be possible to grow it in? And where to buy it? Jane Sargent _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net http://lists.pacificbulbsociety.net/cgi-bin/… ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 18:10:17 -0700 From: "Hansen Nursery" <robin@hansennursery.com> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Subject: [pbs] Rachel Saunders Message-ID: <002c01d40445$9fca3230$df5e9690$@hansennursery.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It has just been announced that Rachel Saunders has been found and identified. No mention was made by the police of where. At last their families can have at least some closure. Robin Hansen Nursery robin@hansennursery.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus/ ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 06:41:48 -0400 From: Anna Mae Miller <irisquilt@aol.com> To: pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net Subject: Re: [pbs] Smithiantha TS-B5 Message-ID: <164030973f8-c8d-19488@webjas-vae003.srv.aolmail.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Sean was at the Region 6 meeting at Lansing and I talked to him in the Hollingworth garden and that is where I met you 2. Sorry you didn't come. I love all the pbs comments you make. Wish I was close enough to get an extra 1/2 from you and learn new plants. anna mae miller -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Kramb <dkramb@badbear.com> To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> Sent: Tue, Jun 12, 2018 7:21 pm Subject: [pbs] Smithiantha TS-B5 The seeds offered in today's SX10 are of a Smithiantha hybrid with pure white flowers with ivory spots & yellow throats. Many of the flowers have extra flower parts, so this selfing might produce semi-double offspring. They also have the potential to be fragrant as several of TS-B5's siblings are. To my knowledge there's no Smithiantha in the world that is semi-double or fully-double. Dennis in Cincinnati -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Smithiantha Sdlg. 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