Celeste wrote: “I would never feel comfortable giving out my street address and/or phone number especially on a ongoing basis.? I have found that simply joining a club can open a person up to an seemingly endless array of spam, “ I'm with Jim Waddick on this one. For heaven's sake, your name and telephone number and street address are probably in numerous telephone books, available to anyone who wants to look. And the undesirable spam (is that a contradiction?) I get is mostly the result of visiting certain web sites, not the result of my information being trawled from postings to discussion lists. But Celeste is right about joining a club (I take that to mean signing up for an on line discussion group). For instance, I joined the Yahoo Clematis group: what a mistake. Now every once and a while I get emails from Cindy, Connie, Rusty and the other gals who seem to think they have what it takes to improve my social life. Why do I suspect that theirs is a for-fee service? There are also the folks who seem convinced I need a watch built like a Hummer, and also the relentless, pathetic, sad stories which are a specialty of certain Nigerians whose idea of business English is very interesting. I've been including my email address in my signature for years, and it does not seem to have brought on the predicted flood of spam. Jim McKenney jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, 39.03871º North, 77.09829º West, USDA zone 7 My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/ Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/