Frank wrote: >Perhaps people are planting them too shallow. I planted some last year >acording to package directions and they hardly grew at all but I remembered >how fantastic they grew for me 30 years before. Many instructions say 2-3 >inches where it should be at least 4-5 inches. Mostly the instructions that come with commercial bulbs are erroneous in this respect. It's remarkable how deep bulbs will "pull down," left to their own devices, even in stiff soil. Sometimes this allows them to avoid tunneling rodents as well as winter cold. I've noticed that themids (Triteleia, Brodiaea, etc.) have much more robust flowering once they are quite deep, and I think this is also true of Calochortus, even though both may have relatively small bulbs. Another kind that survives cold winters if planted deep is Eucomis; I see five species doing well in the garden this year after a winter in the mid-teens F. The easiest way to accomplish deep planting is to use an ordinary spade, shove it into the soil the full length of the blade, pry the soil back, and place the bulbs in the trench thus created; then just remove the blade and press the soil back in place. If you're making a new bed and either emplacing new soil or double-digging, you can place the bulbs during the process. I think there are a few kinds of bulbs that don't respond well to deep planting and normally grow near the soil surface; Scilla (in the broad sense) seems to be one. Jane McGary Northwestern Oregon, USA