Although the intergeneric hybrid (Mangave) may be tougher, I just bought a Manfreda to see if I can winter it over next to the house. Then I'll try a hybrid, which I suspect may be tenderer because of the Polianthes component, unless somebody convinces me otherwise, which could probably be done. If Dennis grew a Manfreda outdoors in Ohio where he is, then I should be able to, also ,. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Lindstrom" <jtranelll@gmail.com> To: "pbs" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 2:43 PM Subject: [pbs] Polianthes and Manfreda crosses > Crosses with Poliathes tuberosa retain the fragrance of this parent. If I use > another fragrant Polianthes as a parent (e.g. 'Sunset'), the F1 progeny are also > fragrant. I don't recall any F1 flowers smelling like Manfreda virginica. > >>Is anyone from further north testing these for hardiness, Jon? >>Russell, who has yet another brood of M virginica seedlings in his >>nursery at the moment. >