Tony Avent wrote: “ We have tried for years to grow tigridia from Dutch sources with no survivability. When I was visiting growers in Holland, they blamed the lack of hardiness on virus, but I haven't been able to confirm this and wonder if it's not just genetics. Finally, about 10+ years ago, we got plants grown from wild collected seed from Yucca Do Nursery. These have survived and flowered for the last decade. We occasionally offer them as does Yucca Do.” Tony, when you write “survivability” and “hardiness” do you mean winter survivability and winter hardiness in the open garden? Or does it refer to the rapid deterioration of such stocks under your conditions? I’ve found Dutch Tigridia pavonia to be reliable when dug and stored dry or moist for the winter. And I’ve known plants overlooked at digging time to survive the winter and bloom the next year here. On the other hand, I’ve found it difficult to get colors as described in the catalogs. Does anyone know if the color variants offered by the Dutch are seed grown strains or if they are clones? I’m inclined to believe that they are seed grown strains because I have an old price list from pre WWII days from a grower in the Pacific Northwest who offered many Tigridia pavonia color variants as seed grown strains. That at least proves that it can be done, but of course it is no comment on the current practice of commercial growers. Jim McKenney jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, 39.03871º North, 77.09829º West, USDA zone 7 My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/ Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/