Alani wrote: " the main difference I have to add is that they remain outdoors all year at this point, not just in the summer and have been quite winter hardy in Zone 8 for over 10 years." I've wintered Scadoxus m. multiflorus against a house wall here in zone 7 Maryland. However, the site was in the rain shadow of the roof overhang, and the plants did not make good subsequent growth (probably because it was so dry). Dell wrote: " It came as a revelation that growing Scadoxus outside in the summer is a good thing. Which ones besides S. multiflorus (ssp multiflorus or katherinae?) have people tried this with? And what about Haemanthus?" Years ago when I grew Haemanthus albiflos, I used to put it outside for the summer after keeping it indoors and dry during the cold seasons. However, because this is an evergreen species, it had to be exposed to the sun very gradually or the old foliage would be badly scorched. The deciduous Scadoxus do not pose this problem: under my conditions, they are definitely in the just about care free category. Jim McKenney jimmckenney@jimmckenney.com Montgomery County, Maryland, USA, 39.03871º North, 77.09829º West, USDA zone 7 My Virtual Maryland Garden http://www.jimmckenney.com/ BLOG! http://mcwort.blogspot.com/ Webmaster Potomac Valley Chapter, NARGS Editor PVC Bulletin http://www.pvcnargs.org/ Webmaster Potomac Lily Society http://www.potomaclilysociety.org/