Hi everyone To;Jane Mc Gary thanks for the information, almost finish reading the book. but really cant see why a beautiful plant can be call a pest lol. Most of the lilies found in tropical areas are over 1000metres, my tallest peak is 958 metres and i live at about 50 metres .So i am trying the lilies under a tree in my garden where it gets morning sun because at midday it can get really hot like 35c hopes it a success wish me luck! To; James thanks for everything, i love bulbous plant i have a few amaryllis and other plants as well can wait to try new bulb plants thanks Brandon R Grant