didn't all plants originally come from nature? ( so we could all kill them three times) robin carrier -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tony Avent" <Tony@plantdelights.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 8:12 AM To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Subject: Re: [pbs] Saving Endangered Plants > Shirley: > > I'm glad you posted a note about the Center for Plant Conservation (CPC). > Although their mission is good, I have found them to be one of the most > elitist organizations that I've ever encountered. They seem more > interested in patting each other on the back than actually accomplishing > anything. In talking with them, they seem to have no interest in > commercial nurseries or private collectors, since in their eyes, we are > the great "unwashed". We don't understand the "problems" inherent with > growing endangered plants...all rare plants must remain exactly where they > are today, unless academic bureaucrats decide its okay to relocate them. > They dismiss all nurseries and horticulture in general because we are evil > commercial ventures only wanting to exploit plants. > > As I've tried to explain to several members, the nursery industry would be > the perfect partner, not only in being able to actually grow the plants, > but we could do wonders with ex-situ conservation by spreading the plants > around widely to collectors in this changing climate. We would have many > more Federally Endangered plants in our catalog if it were not for this > bunch of bureaucrats...along with those from the US Fish and Wildlife. Do > you know that to legally grow and sell Federal Endangered plants, you must > prove that by doing so, you will help the wild populations. Common sense > would say that as long as you aren't harming the wild population, this > should be adequate. The CPC absolutely do not want endangered plants in > private hands since the idea that they might wind up in a new location > gives them fits...think Linda Blair from the Exorcist. Evidently, I > missed the memo where someone put them in charge of keeping nature in > exactly the same place as it is today....quite > bizarre. In my logical world, a functional CPC would be passing out > propagation material of endangered plants to nurseries and encouraging > them to get it propagated and sold. > > Until we can get folks with more common sense, I don't hold much hope for > the group actually accomplishing anything meaningful. How about it > Shirley...are you up to the task? > > > > Tony Avent > Plant Delights Nursery @ > Juniper Level Botanic Garden > 9241 Sauls Road > Raleigh, North Carolina 27603 USA > Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F > Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F > USDA Hardiness Zone 7b > email tony@plantdelights.com > website http://www.plantdelights.com/ > phone 919 772-4794 > fax 919 772-4752 > "I consider every plant hardy until I have killed it myself...at least > three times" - Avent > > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] > On Behalf Of meneice@att.net > Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 11:59 PM > To: 'Pacific Bulb Society' > Subject: Re: [pbs] Saving Endangered Plants > > > Are many of you in the U.S. aware of the Center for Plant Conservation, > headquartered at the Missouri Botanic Garden in St. Louis? > > Their mission is to conserve and restore the imperiled native plants of > our country. It is a consortium of Botanic Gardens and Arboreta across > the country, including New York BG, Arnold Arboretum. Fairchild, Univ. of > Washington, Desert Botanical Garden, Missouri Botanical Garden, Brooklyn > Botanic Garden, Historic Bok Sanctuary, Flagstaff, AZ; Red Butte, Santa > Barbara, Morton Arboretum, Arizona-Sonora Desert, Cinncinnati Zoo and BG, > Chicago Bot. Garden, New England Wildflower, Denver Bot. Garden, North > Carolina BG, Waimea Valley BG. New York BG, Rancho Santa Ana BG, State > Botanical Garden of Georgia, Chicago BG, National Tropical BG, Holden > Arboretum,, Minnesota, Lady Bird Johnson Wildflower Center, Cornell > Plantation and Honolulu BG. > > For more information, please contact Kathryn Kennedy@mobot.org. > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >