On 4-Sep-11, at 7:39 PM, steven hart wrote: > I prefer to keep locations secret because > of intense poaching of seeds & bulbs. I was very impressed when I visited King's Park in Perth, Western Australia. It is a botanic garden, but completely open as a city park. No gatekeeper, no fee to get in. The beds are planted geographically, for the most part, but there was one area that had endangered plants. They were not in cages, not even fenced, and were all labelled. I was astounded, remembering stories of thefts of pansies and primroses from our city parks. I couldn't imagine what would happen if we had endangered species in our parks, with signs drawing attention to their rarity. So I am sad to hear that it might be only Western Australians who can be trusted with rare plants. Diane Whitehead Victoria British Columbia, Canada