> It makes me wonder why they are so expensive. Dear Lee, I've wondered that to. I understand that when happy they are quite prolific and produce numerous off sets. I think Bill Dijk used to remark about this too. I have tried them all here before, but my climatic extremes have failed. Very lovely in any form. I'm sure Dell would welcome your excess off sets as would PBS members. Best Jim -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +