Too right, Jim. I work every day at the nexus of ecological regeneration and opportunities for young people. There is probably a higher interest than ever amongst those who would put PBS (along with that of many other organisations) information to good use, so flagging membership is not a factor of disinterest. The old maxim is still very true: "If you want to get someone to join you, walk over and stand beside them, then walk back together to where you'd like to be." It's beyond pointless to persist in trying to get them to jump on board your old leaky boat! And remember a good definition of madness is "repeating the same (futile) action over and over, expecting a different result". erik On 6 November 2014 01:49 Wed, 5 Nov 2014 16:12:50 -0800 From: Jim McKenney <jamesamckenney@verizon.net> wrote: >Many of the old horticultural organizations are all moaning about dropping > membership and the lack of younger members..... ..... Erik van Lennep , Europe (Ireland, The Netherlands and Catalunya) SKYPE green.heart http://www.circlesquared.org/ youth and elders short video <http://vimeo.com/62177578/> http://www.linkedin.com/in/erikvanlennep/ <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> *Innovation Studio* "we teach sustainability, creativity, effective communication and personal management skills to aspiring entrepreneurs and leaders". ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ *“You never change things by fighting the existing reality.To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”* *― Richard Buckminster Fuller* _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/