On 6 Nov 2014, at 8:49, Tim Eck wrote: > At my previous house I had about 100 square feet of saffron bed which grew > from a couple of pounds of bulbs a Pennsylvania Dutch friend gave me. That may have been Crocus nudiflorus, not C. sativus. I've read that Pennsylvania Dutch farmers often have a patch of it by the back steps. They urinate on it and thereby get fabulous growth. The stamens & anthers can be used as a condiment exactly like those of C. sativus can. -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Z. 7-8, cool Mediterranean climate