>The really crazy one is that Oregon lists, among "potential invasives," Cyclamen coum. It is less enthusiastic here than C. hederifolium, but I imagine someone saw the famous colony of it at Boyd Kline's garden in southern Oregon and "totally freaked out." >No Oregon anti-cyclamen people are allowed in my garden, then. C. coum self sows everywhere here. I was told in 2012 by someone from British Columbia, and I think the occurence was on Vancouver Island, that coum is beginning to run wild in one or two woodland areas there. I suppose there's always the concern about eliminating native species. Where the concern about coum in Oregon has originated, who knows? It surely can't be from Boyd's garden. I had to deliberately sow it into my grass in the garden and even then, it's only doing so-so, although better than hederifolium. I have the occasional plant pop up in my discarded dirt pile, but given how long I've been here, I'd actually expect it to be popping up in a lot of places, and it is not. I have much more serious concerns about English ivy, blackberries, scotch broom and cotoneaster.... Bob is correct, anti-cyclamen people are not allowed (I'll add "period") . Robin Hansen Hansen Nursery 38 F this morning and getting colder (yeah, we Oregonians are still wimps in the cold division)