Hmmm. Self-selecting bias perhaps. The bigger picture tends to tell a different story about the herbicides and pesticides of our youth. Also, take a look at the birth defects in SW Oregon from the aerial spraying of herbicides. Colleen -----Original Message----- From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Karl Church Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 8:54 AM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] GMOs If you are a "boomer" as I am, you ate far worse herbicides & pesticides than Roundup in your youth. If you're still alive & healthy the long term effects must not be as bad as predicted by the emotionally motivated. Humans have been genetically manipulating both plants & animals for centuries for better or worse. As our technology has progressed so has the level & variety of that manipulation. Only time will tell if we did ourselves in with the changes we have produced. Karl Church Dinuba, CA zone 9b On Nov 14, 2014 8:00 AM, "richard" <xerics@cox.net> wrote: > I believe that the worst problem with GMO treated food crops is that > they come to your table with residual pesticides (roundup) and their > by products. > I do not want to eat roundup! > Richard > Vista, CA > > -----Original Message----- > From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of T O > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7:38 AM > To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > Subject: Re: [pbs] GMOs > > The problem with GMOs is absolutely the plants themselves, when they > have pesticides built into their genes which have the unwanted effects > of killing the micro fauna in the soil. "Round-up ready" is no better, > facilitating the use of much herbicide. Monocrops in general displace > enormous plots of land which was once home to thousands of species, > including geophytes. Bottom line is the crops destroy biodiversity > all around them. > > If a company can cross genes so unrelated, why couldn't they have > made them pollen sterile? That would solve two problems. One to > prevent contamination of organic growers crops and two to prevent seed > formation, which they don't allow anyway due to the utility patents. > Organic seed growers are required to have their crops tested yearly > for the presence of GMOs, out of pocket. > See http://wildgardenseed.com/articles/catalog-essays/ for some > highly interesting essays on utility patents, GMO sugar beets, and common sense. > > That being said, there are only a few ornamental GMOs that I'm aware > of (glow in the dark houseplants, blue rose attempts) and I'm sure > they are grown with tissue culture, so I doubt their affect on the > environment is as severe. > > -Travis > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ > > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/ >