GMOs
Colleen (Fri, 14 Nov 2014 10:42:47 PST)

Hmmm. Self-selecting bias perhaps. The bigger picture tends to tell a
different story about the herbicides and pesticides of our youth. Also,
take a look at the birth defects in SW Oregon from the aerial spraying of
herbicides.

Colleen

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From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Karl Church
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 8:54 AM
To: Pacific Bulb Society
Subject: Re: [pbs] GMOs

If you are a "boomer" as I am, you ate far worse herbicides & pesticides
than Roundup in your youth. If you're still alive & healthy the long term
effects must not be as bad as predicted by the emotionally motivated.
Humans have been genetically manipulating both plants & animals for
centuries for better or worse. As our technology has progressed so has the
level & variety of that manipulation. Only time will tell if we did
ourselves in with the changes we have produced.

Karl Church
Dinuba, CA
zone 9b
On Nov 14, 2014 8:00 AM, "richard" <xerics@cox.net> wrote:

I believe that the worst problem with GMO treated food crops is that
they come to your table with residual pesticides (roundup) and their
by products.
I do not want to eat roundup!
Richard
Vista, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: pbs [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of T O
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7:38 AM
To: pbs@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [pbs] GMOs

The problem with GMOs is absolutely the plants themselves, when they
have pesticides built into their genes which have the unwanted effects
of killing the micro fauna in the soil. "Round-up ready" is no better,
facilitating the use of much herbicide. Monocrops in general displace
enormous plots of land which was once home to thousands of species,
including geophytes. Bottom line is the crops destroy biodiversity
all around them.

If a company can cross genes so unrelated, why couldn't they have
made them pollen sterile? That would solve two problems. One to
prevent contamination of organic growers crops and two to prevent seed
formation, which they don't allow anyway due to the utility patents.
Organic seed growers are required to have their crops tested yearly
for the presence of GMOs, out of pocket.
See http://wildgardenseed.com/articles/catalog-essays/ for some
highly interesting essays on utility patents, GMO sugar beets, and common

sense.

That being said, there are only a few ornamental GMOs that I'm aware
of (glow in the dark houseplants, blue rose attempts) and I'm sure
they are grown with tissue culture, so I doubt their affect on the
environment is as severe.

-Travis
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