Hi, As a result of this discussion, Laurence Hill has sent a couple of photos of Cardiocrinum cordatum growing in Japan. You can see them on the PBS wiki page: http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… The discussion of seed reminded me that the germination of Cardiocrinum is interesting. Click on the expanding box on the above page, where it says "Click for pictures of seeds and germination information..." to read all about it. -- David Pilling http://www.davidpilling.com/