>Haven't we ranted enough about bees, GMOs and regulations? Let's get rid of politics and soap boxes and return to BULBS and such. What about a rant concerning the recalcitrant germination of old (>ten years) oncocyclus iris seeds and the subsequent mishandling of the (few) seedlings? (Not much to be done about the latter, except to hire competent help.) Forced germination method, eleven months in the refrigerator, plus time out in warmer conditions. I've germinated seed before, using the outdoor method, and forced germination was said to be "faster". Bob Nold Denver, Colorado