Hi everyone, I realize that it is very difficult to herd cats and that there are a lot of people on this list who like that we have been permissive about what is allowed in our discussions so if I tried to bring the messages back to bulbs there would be an outcry from some of you as there was when someone questioned an off topic message not too long ago. At the very least please put Off Topic in the beginning of your message so those people who are not interested can quickly delete the message and please do not include the previous message in your response so that digest subscribers do not have to plod through multiple repeated messages to find messages they want to read. Mary Sue PBS List Administrator and unsuccessful cat herder