Hi Rodger, thanks for the reply. I have previously tried Hippeastrum and Agapanthus seed on their edge but found it made no difference for me, so I was interested to know if you had found an advantage with Lilium. It's worth following recommendations though, especially with rare seed and I usuallly try different methods to compare results. "Sowing on edge means handling each seed individually, a nuisance. However, if you simply broadcast these flat seeds onto a sowing medium, they tend to overlap a great deal, esp. if sown at all thickly." Yes, that's one of the problems with planting too many seed to a container. Nice to here from you. regards, Bill Richardson, Ixia King Summer 16c-42c. at present West Gippsland, Victoria, Australia ixia@dcsi.net.au Ixia Website: http://www.angelfire.com/ri/ixia/