The seeds available from NARGS this year were donated by a member in Tasmania, who also donated them last year. I've checked back a few years in a couple of seed exchanges. Prior to last year, none were offered. None also from other lists I looked at. I didn't dig out my old SIGNA lists, which might offer it. Either it is not grown by many people or doesn't set seed. It is odd that seeds are offered in club exchanges that have been wild-collected in many places that would seem much more difficult to get to than Mexico, including some from Chile and Mt. Kinabalu this year, but I do not recall any from Mexico, and I have participated in seed exchanges for a very long time. -- Diane Whitehead Victoria, British Columbia, Canada maritime zone 8 cool mediterranean climate (dry summer, rainy winter - 68 cm annually) sandy soil