Like Jim, I'm also interested in summer growing geophytic pelargoniums. The one I'd really like to try is P. luridum, native to the grasslands of Natal and other summer rainfall portions of southern Africa. It's illustrated in Phillips and Rix's Random House Book of Bulbs and doesn't look lurid at all. Flower color can range from white to dark purple, apparently. P. schlecteri is pictured in Elsa Pooley's Wild Flowers of KwaZulu Natal. It looks interesting, with vaguely pea shaped flowers in two tiers, like a candelabra primrose. I don't know of any source of seeds for these two. I imagine seed would be somewhat difficult to collect, as is the case with most pelargoniums. One winter growing pelargonium I'd like to see is P. sibthorpianum, (I think I've spelled that right...) a very low growing species. There's a nice illustration in Rowley's caudiciforms book. Quite a few pelargoniums (hybrids and species, geophytic and not) are pictured in volume 1 of Phillips and Rix's Random House Book of Indoor and Greenhouse Plants. (I don't have enough space for a garden - yet - so I have to content myself with books.) Eugene Zielinski Augusta, GA > [Original Message] > From: J.E. Shields <jshields104@insightbb.com> > To: Pacific Bulb Society <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> > Date: 8/26/04 2:04:51 PM > Subject: Re: [pbs] Re: TOW Tuberous Pelargonium - Part 2 > > David, > > This is very interesting. I'm curious about sources of tuberous > Pelargonium varieties -- seeds or tubers? If it is so tricky to get them > past the one-year mark, I'd rather buy a few established plants, either as > dormant tubers or as plants. > > Are there any the grow primarily in summer, so that we could grow them > outdoors in summer here in Indiana? We have limited space in the > greenhouse for winter growing plants, but it is easy to store summer > growing tender plants that are dormant in winter. We just set the pots in > a corner of the basement. >