John, from the list, only Fen Dan Bai grows in my garden and is an exceptional plant. Very vigourous and early, which may mean warmth tolerant. This year it got frosted in bud, so the display was only so-so, but the single blossoms are wonderful. There is currently a lot of confusion as to where P. ostii ends and Fen Dan Bai begins. In my experience, they are horticulturaly a swarm and the more serrated/ruffled forms are considered the cultivar. The other cultivars I've never seen offered in Britain, which is the warmest climate for TPs in Europe, which may mean nothing, but they may, also, require more cold to prosper. Just a thought. Jamie V. Cologne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Floral Architecture" <floralartistry2000@yahoo.com> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 1:58 AM Subject: [pbs] best Chinese TP selection > Jim et al., Ru Hua Si Yu > Feng Dan Fen > Feng Dan Bai > Xiangyang Hong > Lan Hudie > Zi He > Xue Lian >