>I didn't realize that hybrid daffodils had particular longevity >problems in the ordinary garden, although this problem is what led >me to give up on tall bearded iris hybrids. Dear All; I share Jane's wonder about this problem. Having just ranted about the ease of growing Lycoris, I repeat that most Daffodils are easy and long lived in this climate. Appearance of short longevity may just indicate the unsuitability of that species or cv for your climate. I know I can't grow bulbicodiums or cantabricus' outdoors in the open garden (and others as well) A few I am willing to put in the effort to grow in a cool greenhouse for mid-winter blooms. even then they are long lived and pest free. Daffodil clumps persist long after old farm houses have crumbled to oblivion in my area. Best Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 E-fax 419-781-8594 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +