>I have a gardening friend here in Houston who grows a red-leaved Crinum >I guess this is C. procerum 'Splendens' For Joe (and Claude earlier); Sorry I can't comment about growing submerged, but I wonder how many red-leafed Crinum there are and are they all C. asiaticum/Procerum? Do seedlings come true with red foliage? I see references to - Crinum asiaticum, Crinum procerum, 'Queen Emma'(does this really have red foliage?) and the hybrid (http://bulbnrose.com/crinumz/crinum/…) of asiaticum x digweedii, another hybrid C. asiaticum splendens x C. mauritanicum, broad leaf form, narrow leaf form, and surely others. And why are some called red-leaf and others purple-leaf? Are there actual color differences? Inquiring minds and all that... Best Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 E-fax 419-781-8594 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +