Dear All, I have added a couple of pictures of my Pelargonium echinatum (grown from a leaf cutting I think as I can't remember which was grown from the piece of dried stem and which from leaves) which is blooming at the moment. It is really a handsome thing. I guess I also need to take a picture of the spines. I also added another picture Bob took of David's P. oblongatum we saw when we visited him in May. http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… Thanks Tsuh Yang for those links. Whenever I see a page like the first one I am amazed that someone took so much time to create such a fine free resource, forgetting that a lot of us are doing the same thing for our PBS wiki. Mary Sue