Hi Mike, I've been growing a plant that's called Crinum procerum, a red leafed Asiaticum type, for 15 years in San Juan Capistrano. They've withstood 25F without blemish. I got mine from Desert to JUngle in Montebello. Also Cindy's Crinums on the web listed them. chuck Schwartz ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Masterson Family" <masterson4@cox.net> To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 10:24 AM Subject: [pbs] Crinum Greetings from Southern California! I am wondering if anyone out there in my neck of the woods has any experience growing red leafed Crinums and any good sources for one. I would like to plant one in my Escondido garden but am not sure how hardy it would be and where to get one at a reasonable price. Thank you in advance. Mike Masterson _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php