>From the descriptions you provided, the bulb is not truncate, the apices of the bulb SCALES are truncate. Looking at your photos, the apices of those scales look truncate to me. --- On Thu, 9/9/10, Cody Howard <cchowar1027@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Cody Howard <cchowar1027@yahoo.com> Subject: [pbs] Ledebouria ovatifolia...or is it? To: "Pacific Bulb Society" <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Date: Thursday, September 9, 2010, 8:51 AM Hello all, I'm going to keep this as short as possible. I have a Ledebouria that I received as L. ovatifolia. Following the advice of someone I decided to key it to make sure it was labeled correctly. Now I'm convinced that it is not L. ovatifolia but rather L. luteola. However, my plant seems to be a mixture of the two descriptions but maybe youth and a lack of understanding have lead to this confusion. Maybe I'm just doubting myself. I have read the original descriptions of both species from their original publications and I've read Venter's revision of the genus. Here is what Venter says: Ledebouria ovatifolia Diagnostic features:///The/ brown to purple bulb scales with copious threads when torn, appressed leaves with threads when torn, flaccid inflorescences that are longer than the leaves, basally compressed scape and the ridged rachis. "L. ovatifolia is closely related to L. luteola but differs in the truncate apices of the bulb scales and the partly emerged, ovate to deltate, mostly humifuse leaves." Ledebouria luteolaDiagnostic features:///Live/ bulb scales with copious threads when torn, leaves fully developed at anthesis, with a dull luster, with copious threads when torn, inflorescences longer than the leaves, rachis ridged, bracteoles present, anthers pale violet, ovary 6-lobed with well-developed basal lobes, capsule globose and the seed brown. "L. luteola is closely related to L. ovatifolia (Baker) Jessop but differs in the apices of the bulb scales not at all truncate, leaves spreading and linear-lanceolate to lanceolate." So, my plant has linear/lanceolate leaves and the bulb are not truncate (I think). I'm not sure what a truncated bulb would look like. Based off these two descriptions I have reason to believe that my plant could very well be Ledebouria luteola. I just wanted other opinions before I went changing my label and my records. Here are the pictures: http://flickr.com/photos/codycoyotee/… Danke schön, Cody Coyotee