Dear Friends, Dennis does make a good point about cyber resources, although I was considering 'bricks and mortar' suppliers of seeds, bulbs and plants. But I think the pros and cons of b&m vs cyber are quite striking Access to the web is still a definite problem and high speed access even more-so. The 'have's' tend to forget about the 'have-nots' because a high speed connection is a wonderful thing. You just have to ask around and see who has actually ever made a purchase from a cyber retailer of any kind. I contend that cyber sources are even more ephemeral than b&m. A web sale can be a one time thing, never to reappear. Communication with web suppliers can very tenuous. Complaints may be very difficult to bring to satisfaction. Cyber sources are still 'evolving' and run the gamut from being cyber version of established b & m sources to 'some guy' with 'some plant' in 'some country' with each level of complexity capable of multiplying frustration. Although it can be true that an extremely rare plant may appear in a cyber announcement, there is a considerable risk in correct ID, condition of plant and reliability /truth in cyber-sales. The closer a cyber supplier resembles a b & m established supplier (such as the PBS BX or the SIGNA SeedEX), the more confidence the buyer has in dealing with these sources. All this doesn't make 'the chase' any less exciting, but the results can be very frustrating. I could give examples, but I am certain almost every person who has ordered from a cyber source for something has had some bit of disappointment. I'm sure others can fill in the many gaps I have suggested. Best Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +