Alberto, I wish we could sit down and talk Hymenocallis/Elisene/Ismene. All but one species (Hym. ocidentalis) here in SE US is at least semi-aquatic,w/ the exeption of the tropical H. latifolia carried ashore.. I wonder how many true Hymenocallis grow in the desert and are not associated with a watershed system? I am beginning to suspect they like gallery forests along rivers and creekbeds in Mexico My friend sent me 5 Elisene seeds from the wild in Peru under my USDA import permit 18monsthago...they sprouted in feb. and went dormant in may.. They are dormant now and can't find their rhythm. When do they grow, presuming it is E. longipetala? Those things that rely on mist for moisture intrigue me. Spiderlily ID is rough w/o locality info...at least try to determine whatregion they are from, if possible. Then note if they are Did you ever get the I.amencaes seeds I sent to you before your surgery....did they make it? verybest, Kevin D. Preuss http://www.amaryllis-plus.com/