At 02:56 18/06/05, you wrote: >Dear Alberto: > >Thanks, I guess the mystery bulb remains just that, a mystery! Cheers, >John John et al, This sounds like Ismene x Festalis (Not Hymenocallis, although for some reason in the US in particular Ismene are called Hymenocallis all the time?). Ismene and Hymenocallis are not the same thing despite this cross usage of the name. My understanding is that the difference between Ismene and Hymenocallis is the fact that Ismene have the leaves bound together at the base by a sheath, whereas the Hymenocallis have their leaves free immediately they exit the ground. If memory serves me it was Alberto Castillo who gave this wonderfully clear differentiation about a year or so ago, but I am not sure which list it was on. I think from memory I kept the email (as I found it so useful to clear up the whole Ismene / Hymenocallis thing) so I can try to dig it up for you if you would like? I would definitely say that the mystery bulb sounds 100% like Ismene x Festalis as it matches perfectly what we have under that name here in Australia and they are distinctly different from any of the Hymenocallis that I grow. Cheers. Paul Tyerman Canberra, Australia. USDA equivalent - Zone 8/9 Growing.... Galanthus, Erythroniums, Fritillarias, Trilliums, Cyclamen, Crocus, Cyrtanthus, Oxalis, Liliums, Hellebores, Aroids, Irises plus just about anything else that doesn't move!!!!!