>>>>So, given that my x powellii has pushed itself upwards not downward, maybe they prefer to be at ground level here? I'm just wondering now whether I have done the right thing planting my other Crinums as I have? Hi Paul, Let them do their thing, don't plant deep if you don't need to, they'll find their own depth. I've seen Crinum moorei in the UK stack up like a huge pile of canon balls (pic on the wikki), and they flower just as well. Incidentally the opposite happens here with Amaryllis as I plant all my Amaryllis / xAmarygia here 6 inches deep, and always they come back to the surface and frost doesn't do any damage to them at all; and they're in the same soil that allows Crinums to pull themselves down. Best Wishes, Dave The African Garden NCCPG National Plant Reference Collections of Crocosmia with Chasmanthe, Tulbaghia and Amaryllis 96 Wasdale Gardens, Estover, Plymouth, Devon. England. PL6 8TW Tel: 44 (0)1752 301402 http://www.theafricangarden.com/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com/). Version: 6.0.707 / Virus Database: 463 - Release Date: 15/06/2004