OK, I give in! After reading endless e-mails about over-large and blousy plants I never had the slightest intention to grow - and seeing numerous pictures - I want some, please. I've had Crinum bulbispermum here for a couple of years in the open ground and it does just fine. Where can I go to buy some more of those hardy monsters that folks have been showing us? I'd even be willing trade some 'proper' bulbs if anyone is interested. Alternatively - if someone will go around to Jim W's and do the digging, I'm sure Jim will happily give instructions where to dig! Thanks, J. Dr John T Lonsdale, 407 Edgewood Drive, Exton, Pennsylvania 19341, USA Home: 610 594 9232 Cell: 484 678 9856 Fax: 801 327 1266 Visit "Edgewood" - The Lonsdale Garden at http://www.edgewoodgardens.net/ USDA Zone 6b