Tony, Dave, et al., I can add the following to my list: Crinum 'Emma Jones' -- disappeared completely over winter C. 'Seven Sisters' -- only a few small shoots coming up C. 'Catherine' -- looks fine, but has not tried to bloom so far All three were sent to me by Roy Works, Tampa, FL, for cold testing. They were planted in the ground in summer 2003, just about 1 year ago. C. digweedii survived for a few years in the greenhouse bed and for one winter out in the open field, but all eventually disappeared. It seems not to be reliably hardy in central Indiana! Still awaiting testing: CC. pink dwarf, 'Mystery', americanum, and erubescens I have room for a few more bulbs in this same bed, around one of my heated greenhouses, if anyone has something they would like to have tested in a "friendly" microclimate (please contact me off-list at: <jshields@indy.net> ). In this same bed, I have surviving plants of Hymenocallis liriosme, Zantedeschia aethiopica 'Green Goddess', and Z. 'Black Pearl', all planted out there in the ground a year ago. In the same bed are several plants of C. bulbispermum that have been and continue blooming, in this their third season in the ground. Regards, Jim Shields in central Indiana (USDA cold zone 5, lowest temps -10°F/-23°C to -20°F/-28°C in winter) Maximum summer temps ca. 92°F to 96°F At 03:48 PM 6/24/2004 -0400, you wrote: >Dave: > > The great thing about this forum is our ability to share > information. We >need more people like Jim Waddick and Jim Shields in the colder zones to >take our lists and keep pushing those envelopes. > >At 06:49 PM 6/24/2004 +0100, you wrote: > >>>>>>>I'll see your crinum list and raise you another list. > > > >Hi Tony, > >OK I'll lay my cards on the table. Tony, if you remember, you did supply me > >with a few on my list so they should be hardy. > >Tony Avent >Plant Delights Nursery @ >Juniper Level Botanic Garden >9241 Sauls Road >Raleigh, NC 27603 USA >Minimum Winter Temps 0-5 F >Maximum Summer Temps 95-105F >USDA Hardiness Zone 7b >email tony@plantdelights.com ************************************************* Jim Shields USDA Zone 5 Shields Gardens, Ltd. P.O. Box 92 WWW: http://www.shieldsgardens.com/ Westfield, Indiana 46074, USA Tel. ++1-317-867-3344 or toll-free 1-866-449-3344 in USA