Dear All, The wiki administrators prefer that you announce the wiki page when you announce your pictures instead of the url. One of the reasons for this is that when you go to the wiki page you can read the text about the images which is one of the advantages of our wiki over a web site that just displays images without telling you anything about them. The other reason is that we frequently change the names of files (moving them to a subdirectory, correcting misspelled names or misidentified plants or files named oddly) and then the original url given the group ends up with that funny message from ibiblio that it could not be found. Very rarely do the wiki pages change so if the pages are referenced we can make changes and the archive url will still work. In late May Bill Dijk loaded a lot of images to the wiki and he is now writing about them. I'm going to reference the wiki pages and encourage those of you who may be interested in these plants to go to the pages and read what he has said about his pictures. To learn about Androcymbium ciliolatum http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… Gloriosa--I've changed names of the files he gave before so those links won't work and added a picture taken last summer of mine. Bill's pictures show two color variations and we still have Sheila Burrow's wonderful close-up. In my picture I wanted to give people an idea of how much space this plant needs and how much it can climb in a season. Which reminds me that perhaps this year I need to rig up string in my greenhouse it can scramble up the string before it falls over. http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… Bill has added some interesting text along with pictures of the two color forms of Bessera elegans. http://pacificbulbsociety.org/pbswiki/index.php/… More wiki urls tomorrow. Mary Sue PBS List Administrator, Wiki Worker, TOW Coordinator (Whew!)