>John: > > Now that is interesting. Depending on exact locations, that part of >Alabama still has some elevations in excess of 2000', while the Florida >Panhandle rarely exceeds 300' elevation. Perhaps the Alabama forms found >the early emergence was not a good thing. > > >Even more interesting is the fact that T. underwoodii from east central >>Alabama comes up with the rest of the deep south sessiles in early spring, >>2-3 months after the Florida panhandle forms, even though it isn't that much > >further north. Maybe some Trillium have better 'genetic memory' and others have "Botanical Alzheimers" and forget it is cold, but come up anyway. Sorry my mind wanders. Crinum americanum: I have never grown this except for a hybrid (I think C. american x C moorei or vice versa) which is semi dwarf and grows like mad, but doesn't bloom all that well. Does this have a cv name? I got to looking for most northerly distribution of C. americanum recalling that I saw it in the boot-heel of SE Missouri. Must be my own 'Alzheimers' as I must have replaced those sightings with Hymenocallis as there are no Missouri records. Anyone know certain what the northern record is for this species? I am sure I have seen it growing in central Arkansa between Little Rock and Conway. Anything north of this ?.... and anyone have plants from this northern location? I NEED one. Best Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 E-fax 419-781-8594 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +