jane, thank you so much for that bit of info. i will have to get a greenhouse yet, if i can convince my husband. i do water them well all summer as i did see them in NZ one summer in a wetter place then i would have thought them to grow. they evidently like the heat of christchurch although i was there a bit late to see much :). cindi "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take but by the moments that take our breath away." ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit http://www.juno.com/ to sign up today!