Dear All, The picture of Lauw's Hyacinthus orientalis 'Villa Petraya' makes it look quite nice. The color is much better than mine which is a light purple. It is disappointing to read that this is one of the bulbs currently missing from Lauw's inventory. It sounds like Jim Waddick can grow the cultivars just fine in his colder garden, but people are suggesting the wild form for warmer gardens. Has anyone tested the hardiness? While I was looking on Lauw's web page I checked out what pictures he had for Bellevalia, our topic of the week and he has a picture of Bellevalia romana (the "good doer"), the one I didn't get a picture for our wiki. Under the description he has called it a "Roman Hyacinth" which is what Cynthia Mueller talked about growing in Texas. I asked her what she thought the botanical name was for her plants and she suggested it could be Hyacinthus orientalis var. albulus. I searched in the IPNI list and there isn't any listing for this. There is a listing for H. orientalis however. There are two published listing for Hyacinthus romanus however. One equals dubius so perhaps that listing was for what is now known as Bellevalia dubia. There is another one for Hyacinthus romanus however which would be a logical botanical name for Roman Hyacinths. So if this plant is now known as Bellevalia romana it sounds like we have two different plants that are called Roman Hyacinths. Mary Sue Mary Sue Ittner California's North Coast Wet mild winters with occasional frost Dry mild summers