>or similar localities? And how does John Lonsdale manage to grow so >many of these (difficult) Irises so well in not the ideal climate? >Inquiring minds... pact with the devil? :-) just kiddin... he's done lots of research and tries to give them what they need to stay happy. it also helps to have a greenhouse where you can control the amount of water they receive in the summer months... i think john has one of those ? not sure. dennis in cincy (where capital letters are passe)