On 6 Jun 06, at 15:29, James Waddick wrote: > ...the moisture loving C. leictlinii [sic] I wouldn't call C. leichtlinii "moisture loving", at least not if the imputation is that it's a nearly a bog plant. The violet-blue subspecies suksdorfii is quite common here, and the territory it likes is bone dry in the summer. Winter seeps, yes, but in summer dry, drier, driest. -- Rodger Whitlock Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Maritime Zone 8, a cool Mediterranean climate on beautiful Vancouver Island