Iain said: By the way for those seduced by lovely scented plants it take a lot to beat Syringa swegenzowii. Anybody not moved to amazement is not entitled to share the same air as the rest of the world's normal folk, it is a stunner !!!!!!!!! There are almost all the Syringa species in the collection here and nothing can beat it although several come close I think that scent from a flower is different from person to person, and I admit that I am not normal and will start holding my breath now! I can not stand the smell of Syringa, the only reason they exist in my garden is because they form a good deer barrier. Linda Foulis Zone 3 Canada