Hi, members: I'd like to comment on Jim's classification: >**Fresh Bulbs are allowed to ripen their foliage, enter dormancy and are >then dug and stored in a cool, dark moist state. They may be divided and >cleaned of most soil. Roots may/or may not dry out. Such bulbs are shipped >for later planting or around the garden. Lilies, like fritillarias, lack an outer membrane to retain moisture, which is probably why they didn't become a commercial success until the invention of plastic bags and peatmoss packaging for individual bulbs. (Purchasers of large lots, such as greenhouses, were more successful "in the good old days' when the bulbs were packed in large crates which retained some moisture.) Lilies almost always perform better if the roots do not dry out. They do grow new roots when planted, so perhaps the presence of roots merely assures that they've been properly handled in shipment? It is also a mantra with lily growers that spring planted lilies do not perform as well as the same bulb would have if planted in the fall and allowed to establish a new root system. It is always a race to allow the lilies to mature in the field, get them harvested, graded, packaged, then shipped soon enough to allow fall planting in areas with frozen soils in winter. Retailers/sellers often claim that lilies are fine when properly stored for spring planting, but experience seems to indicate otherwise. Even the madonna lily seems to perform better if shipped with root protection, and it is harvested and should be (but often isn't) shipped so it can be planted in late summer, with plenty of time to establish a new root system before cold soil temperatures stop development. "In the green" shipment certainly makes it much easier for a pest or disease to be spread around from one area to another, not only because the soil is still present, but the individual bulbs are not examined for the possible presence of problems. Ken