Hi all, Since a recent thread indicated there might be confusion about what can be discussed on this list I'll repeat what is says on our list information page: "Although bulbs (defined more broadly to include all geophytes) are the focus, we recognize that people who grow them probably grow other things too and will be talking about them from time to time." There is no requirement of limiting our discussion to geophytes that only grow on the Pacific Rim. Most people on this list are really good about keeping the discussion to our topic or related subjects that they think others would be interested in. Occasional off-topic remarks don't last long and can be deleted easily as long as the subject line is clear. Perhaps because of our experiences on another list Arnold and I decided to be relatively permissive as long as the conversation is polite and friendly and plant related. We don't even do anything to people who repeatedly include the whole message in their reply except occasionally ask them privately not to do so. Geophytic orchids have been discussed in the past. Many people are really interested in them and I encourage you to add pictures to the wiki of them. Jane is certainly welcome to tell us about any she saw on her trip to Crete if she wants to. Some of us who have been sharing on this list for awhile see it as a community of sorts and are interested in experiences that others have that we all might learn from. For example I imagine there are people who would be very interested in whatever information Arnold receives about a replacement for his digital camera. Photographing flowers with digital cameras was one of our first topics of the week many years ago and so much has changed since then. As long as the subject line is clear, it allows readers to decide what they want to read and he or she can delete the rest. Mary Sue