Hello Boyce, Can you give me some more info about your Muscari szovitsianum? All I have on it is a description of it sent to me from a Russian Botanical Garden. In Russian! After translation it still wasn't very clear what the difference is between the two species. I would appreciate it very much. I couldn't agree with you more when you say the genus is in need of sorting out. Martin Philippo, Noordwijkerhout, the Netherlands e-mail: martin philippo website:///muscaripages/ -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Boyce Tankersley Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 4:01 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: RE: [pbs] Muscari--TOW Hi Jane: I have to agree with Martin. We have Muscari szovitsianum from a known population in Republic of Georgia. Seeds were collected for us, we saw the populations in flower. The RHS Dictionary identifies it as a synonym for M. armeniacum. The seedlings have flowered for the first time this spring. They don't much resemble M. armenaicum, but then neither did the wild population. We assumed that if the seedlings matched M. armeniacum in our collections from Holland then they were in fact synonyms. As per the introduction to this genus, it appears there is a real need to sort things out taxonomically. Boyce Tankersley btankers@chicagobotanic.org -----Original Message----- From: Martin and Yvonne Philippo [mailto:philippo.hennessy@worldonline.nl] Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 4:20 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: RE: [pbs] Muscari--TOW Hello Jane, certainly there are many synonyms of Muscari armeniacum. I have several forms of M. armeniacum in my collection, collected (not by me ) in Turkey, Greece and other countries. They are all different. I don't always agree with the botanists that simply put many forms under one species name. Some of these forms are truly nice and interesting! Don't dislike your M. conicum because it is 'merely' a synonym, judge it on its beauty. If you have any seeds left over this year I would love to try it. Martin Philippo, Noordwijkerhout, the Netherlands e-mail: martin philippo website:///muscaripages/ -----Original Message----- From: pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:pbs-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org]On Behalf Of Jane McGary Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 9:43 PM To: Pacific Bulb Society Subject: Re: [pbs] Muscari--TOW Mary Sue asked, >Just now blooming from Jane's surplus bulbs is Muscari pallens. It didn't even come up until April and I was sure it was >a goner. It is a sweet little thing. How long do I need to keep it growing and does it need summer water? I don't know whether it needs summer water, but it certainly tolerates it, because all of mine are in places where they get a small amount of irrigation in summer. By the way, a couple of years ago I got seed from the Scottish Rock Garden Club under the name Muscari conicum. I was quite pleased at how attractive it was in flower this year and looked it up. Oops...it's an invalid synonym of M. armeniacum. As they say, if dandelions were hard to grow, people would think they were gorgeous. Jane McGary Northwestern Oregon, USA _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php _______________________________________________ pbs mailing list pbs@lists.ibiblio.org http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php