Mary Sue, No, I haven't tried any of them. I never knew there was such a thing. I would love to try some. Who has them? Send them on over. LOL ===== John Ingram jjingram@adelphia.net Floralartistry2000@yahoo.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/… http://www.geocities.com/floralartistry2000/ http://photos.yahoo.com/floralartistry2000/