Dear Mark and all; I agree with Mark that the the genus Iris should be separated on the wiki especially regarding emphasis on the more geophytic groups. I'd exclude the water and other 'wet' species such as I pseudacorus and others - see below. I think our special interest might be in the bulbous sub genera: Junos Reticulatas English/Dutch etc. and Oncocylus and other arillate relatives. and a few odds and ends that deserve to grown "like a bulbous iris" (Iris timofejewii come to mind). I'd exclude a wide range of more common garden irises too such as siberians, Pacific coast natives, water iris, crested iris and Louisianas for instance. Probably some others. Regarding Iris sari ; I've grown this for a few years and amazed by the size of the plant and the relatively large flowers. It may be one of the easier pure Oncocylcus species to grow. My plant started with two small fans and multiplied to over 20 in a a short time. I grow it o a very well drained raise bed subject to all our climate can give it. It is not dug in summer or protected from summer occasional rains, nor protected from winter cold, ice snow. It requires full sun and very good drainage. And it is pretty awesome. Best Jim W. -- Dr. James W. Waddick 8871 NW Brostrom Rd. Kansas City Missouri 64152-2711 USA Ph. 816-746-1949 E-fax 419-781-8594 Zone 5 Record low -23F Summer 100F +