Mark: Try these. Looks can be deceiving. Alan J. Chris Pires and Kenneth J. Sytsma A phylogenetic evaluation of a biosystematic framework: Brodiaea and related petaloid monocots (Themidaceae) Am. J. Bot. 2002 89: 1342-1359. Paula J. Rudall, Richard M. Bateman, Michael F. Fay, and Alison Eastman Floral anatomy and systematics of Alliaceae with particular reference to Gilliesia, a presumed insect mimic with strongly zygomorphic flowers Am. J. Bot. 2002 89: 1867-1883. Alan W. Meerow, Michael F. Fay, Charles L Guy, Qin-Bao Li, Faridah Q Zaman, and Mark W. Chase Systematics of Amaryllidaceae based on cladistic analysis of plastid sequence data Am. J. Bot. 1999 86: 1325-1345. Fay, M. F., and M. W. Chase. 1996. Resurrection of Themidaceae for the Brodiaea alliance, and recircumscription of Alliaceae, Amaryllidaceae and Agapanthoideae. Taxon 45: 441-451 ----- Original Message ----- From: <Antennaria@aol.com> To: <pbs@lists.ibiblio.org> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [pbs] Dichelostemma--TOW > This genus [Dichelostemma] has been > considered to be a part of many different families including Alliaceae. In > The Jepson Manual (1993) it was classified in Liliaceae. Recent work is now > placing it in a new family, Themidaceae, which includes other California > genera (Androstephium, Bloomeria, Brodiaea, Muilla, and Triteleia.) > > Can somebody cite a definitive technical paper that defines the boundaries of > Themidaceae. I'm aware of the existance of this new family, particularly in > regard to pulling Triteleia and Brodiaea out of Alliaceae, but this is the > first I've heard that Muilla is also swallowed up by Themidaceae. What are the > defining characteristics that separate the Themidaceae from Alliaceae? I need > to be convinced, because the evidence I've evaluated thus far seems less than > convincing (regarding the very existance of Themidaceae). Regarding Muilla, > this is an anagram of Allium (of which there are several) to describe a closely > allied genus (Muilla is Allium backwards). So it's ironic indeed, that such > an ally is moved out of Alliaceae, don't you think? > > Mark McDonough Pepperell, Massachusetts, United States > antennaria@aol.com "New England" USDA Zone 5 > ============================================== > >> web site under construction - http://www.plantbuzz.com/ << > alliums, bulbs, penstemons, hardy hibiscus, western > american alpines, iris, plants of all types! > _______________________________________________ > pbs mailing list > pbs@lists.ibiblio.org > http://www.pacificbulbsociety.org/list.php > >