Worsleya procura
edward meaney via pbs (Thu, 16 Jul 2020 16:02:13 PDT)
Hi , I had some experience growing Worsleya procura in Central Scotland .
In 1982 , or thereabouts , Thompson and Morgan had a dramatic photo ( Mount Roraima, I think ) some intriguing “ lost world “ story and a listing for “ Blue Amaryllis “ seeds in their catalogue .
They were very expensive £5. 99 or so for 3 seeds .
I bought them , sowed them in some John Innes seed compost with extra grit and they germinated . One didn’t last a year , the other two were fine .
They were potted on into John Innes no1 with added grit and crushed charcoal.
The second winter killed another one however so I was left with one .
In year 4 I moved house and the plant moved into my father in law’s greenhouse.
The bulb was about 11/2 “ in diameter with a “ neck of about 8” and 2 foot long sickle shaped leaves .
I thought it would flower the following year .
I never saw flowers , the plant was stolen from the greenhouse .
I’ve looked since but never heard of it again till I saw it in “ Himalayan Gardens “ site at over £200 a bulb . It’s grown on for them in India apparently .
I’ve never seen seeds offered again .
So , I used John Innes I.E. loam based compost with a bit more drainage and apart from some night when the forecast was -2 c or lower it was in a cold greenhouse with only a small frost protective parrafin heater. The kind you used to put under a cars sump .
I think they may be tougher than you expect .
E Meaney
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6. Worsleya procera, was Worsleya procura (Jane McGary)
7. Re: raccoons (Jim McKenney)
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:20:28 -0400
From: "XYZ2 in Virginia" <867ykcor@cox.net>
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Topic: Worsleya procura
Worsleya procura is a beautiful plant in the Amaryllidaceae family from
Brazil. It has striking, large lavender to bluish flowers. The PBS wiki
mentions that it is very exacting in its cultural requirements. It appeared
to me that the entries in the PBS wiki about this plant were written in the
early 2000s. So, I thought I'd post to the PBS list to enquire about this
plant and to ask members to comment on their recent experiences growing it,
both positive and negative. I think I would like to attempt to grow this
plant at some point in time. I would appreciate hearing your advice and
suggestions about cultivation and sourcing seeds or small plants. I assume
that this is a very expensive plant.
A final note... I read with interest the article by Dr. Paul Resslar who
successfully grew plants from seeds in pure pumice at Wesleyan University in
Norfolk, Virginia. The article can be accessed from the PBS wiki and dates
from about July 2006. I live in Williamsburg, Virginia, the same climate
zone as in Norfolk, and I would be able to replicate the methods and
growing conditions described by Dr. Resslar if I am ever able to obtain a
few seeds.
Thank you for your help.
Bern
Zone 7b, very hot and humid today
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 12:51:19 -0400
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Worsleya procura is a beautiful plant in the Amaryllidaceae family from
Brazil. It has striking, large lavender to bluish flowers. The PBS wiki
mentions that it is very exacting in its cultural requirements. It appeared
to me that the entries in the PBS wiki about this plant were written in the
early 2000s. So, I thought I'd post to the PBS list to enquire about this
plant and to ask members to comment on their recent experiences growing it,
both positive and negative. I think I would like to attempt to grow this
plant at some point in time. I would appreciate hearing your advice and
suggestions about cultivation and sourcing seeds or small plants. I assume
that this is a very expensive plant.
A final note... I read with interest the article by Dr. Paul Resslar who
successfully grew plants from seeds in pure pumice at Wesleyan University in
Norfolk, Virginia. The article can be accessed from the PBS wiki and dates
from about July 2006. I live in Williamsburg, Virginia, the same climate
zone as in Norfolk, and I would be able to replicate the methods and
growing conditions described by Dr. Resslar if I am ever able to obtain a
few seeds.
Thank you for your help.
Bern
Zone 7b, very hot and humid today
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:33:41 -0700
From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
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Thanks to Lee Poulsen for the ultimate raccoon solution. How lucky
gardeners are that some of us are engineers!
I haven't followed this thread much, but I thought I would note that
certain kinds of organic fertilizers attract carnivorous or omnivorous
animals. Bone meal and fish fertilizer are particularly likely to get
them digging -- and perhaps knocking over pots.
Now that I have no dog, I don't always close the gates into my back
yard, but losing some lily buds to deer have warned me to do so. Deer
ate all the flowering stems off the camas in the front garden this
spring. The gates keep out the raccoons too, I think. The only faunal
problem lately was hummingbirds flying into the bulb house while I had
the door open, and not being smart enough to fly back out through the
door. I have had to lure them out by hanging a tempting flower stalk
just outside the door.
Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 13:21:33 -0400
From: Mark Mazer <markemazer@gmail.com>
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See:
http://tropicalworldusa.com/Worsleya-procera-Rare-…
Mark Mazer
Hertford, NC
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:51 PM Jose via pbs <
pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
Worsleya procura is a beautiful plant in the Amaryllidaceae family from
Brazil. It has striking, large lavender to bluish flowers. The PBS wiki
mentions that it is very exacting in its cultural requirements. It
appeared
to me that the entries in the PBS wiki about this plant were written in the
early 2000s. So, I thought I'd post to the PBS list to enquire about this
plant and to ask members to comment on their recent experiences growing it,
both positive and negative. I think I would like to attempt to grow this
plant at some point in time. I would appreciate hearing your advice and
suggestions about cultivation and sourcing seeds or small plants. I assume
that this is a very expensive plant.
A final note... I read with interest the article by Dr. Paul Resslar who
successfully grew plants from seeds in pure pumice at Wesleyan University
in
Norfolk, Virginia. The article can be accessed from the PBS wiki and dates
from about July 2006. I live in Williamsburg, Virginia, the same climate
zone as in Norfolk, and I would be able to replicate the methods and
growing conditions described by Dr. Resslar if I am ever able to obtain a
few seeds.
Thank you for your help.
Bern
Zone 7b, very hot and humid today
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:28:11 -0700
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Good Morning, PBS Folks,
I must apologize for my lack of or tardy responses to emails you have sent
directly to me. I've been dealing with anemia, which leaves me with so
little energy, I'm managing to water and not much else. However, things are
improving, but I hope you'll have a bit more patience as I try to catch up.
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I am slowly working on the next journal edition, so I hope to have that out
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:45:42 -0700
From: Jane McGary <janemcgary@earthlink.net>
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Subject: [pbs] Worsleya procera, was Worsleya procura
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this discussion can be searched for in the PBS archive.
Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:09:36 +0000 (UTC)
From: Jim McKenney <jamesamckenney@verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: [pbs] raccoons
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I no longer bury crushed egg shellin the media I use for potted plants: it's a sure raccoon magnet aroundhere.?And local gardeners on another list assure me it?s a waste of timeif the intention is to raise the calcium level in the soil.
Last night while reading Lee's post(my computer is just outside the kitchen, the kitchen opens out to a deck) Icould hear some noises in the kitchen over near the door. I got up quietly,enough to get a view of that end of the room, and there was a young raccoon inthe kitchen giving me the "what time will dinner be served tonight?"look. Of course, I was ensorcelled and checked the fridge for left overs.?
Mom brought the young ones up lastweek and they got into everything. Something, one of them almost certainly, bitthe pseudostem of my Worsleya off leaving a four inch stub sticking out of theground. I'm trying to decide if that is a capital crime.?Maybe it waspayback for the raccoon hat I had as a kid: the things we used to do.
Jim McKenneyMontgomery County, Maryland, USA, USDA zone 7 where I'm not proud of my Davy Crockett days.??
?
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 01:16:34 PM EDT, Jane McGary via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
Thanks to Lee Poulsen for the ultimate raccoon solution. How lucky
gardeners are that some of us are engineers!
I haven't followed this thread much, but I thought I would note that
certain kinds of organic fertilizers attract carnivorous or omnivorous
animals. Bone meal and fish fertilizer are particularly likely to get
them digging -- and perhaps knocking over pots.
Now that I have no dog, I don't always close the gates into my back
yard, but losing some lily buds to deer have warned me to do so. Deer
ate all the flowering stems off the camas in the front garden this
spring. The gates keep out the raccoons too, I think. The only faunal
problem lately was hummingbirds flying into the bulb house while I had
the door open, and not being smart enough to fly back out through the
door. I have had to lure them out by hanging a tempting flower stalk
just outside the door.
Jane McGary, Portland, Oregon, USA
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:14:31 +0000 (UTC)
From: Jim McKenney <jamesamckenney@verizon.net>
To: Jim McKenney via pbs <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] raccoons
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Oops! Sorry for not trimming.?Jim MKenney
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 19:00:14 -0400
From: "XYZ2 in Virginia" <867ykcor@cox.net>
To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Worsleya procera, was Worsleya procura
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Hey Nick,
Thanks for your considered reply to my questions about Worsleya procera,
formerly W. procura. (It's W. procura in the PBS wiki.) But, I'm happy to
find out from Jane that the species name has been updated.
One more question....... What kind of container do you have your plant
potted in? Is it in an orchid box, net pot, clay pot, plastic pot, other?
And thanks for mentioning Permatill. I had never heard of this amendment
before and I'm going to give it a try. I usually purchase pumice on eBay,
but I can probably source Permatill locally.
Thanks again for your help. I appreciate it.
Regards,
Bern
Williamsburg, VA Zone 7B
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 16:20:22 -0700
From: Paul Machado <farmerguys08@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [pbs] Worsleya procera, was Worsleya procura
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Hey all, Has anyone else tried using turface?
I use it in my mixes for Worsleya and Nepenthes and it works great!
It is clay based and used mainly for baseball and track and field fields.
Here is a link to the product I use, MVP,
as it lets me know when the mix is starting to dry out and time to water!
https://turface.com/products/infield-conditioners/…
All the best,
Paul
Stevinson, CA
where it is 95 today!
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 4:00 PM XYZ2 in Virginia via pbs <
pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
Hey Nick,
Thanks for your considered reply to my questions about Worsleya procera,
formerly W. procura. (It's W. procura in the PBS wiki.) But, I'm happy to
find out from Jane that the species name has been updated.
One more question....... What kind of container do you have your plant
potted in? Is it in an orchid box, net pot, clay pot, plastic pot,
other?
And thanks for mentioning Permatill. I had never heard of this amendment
before and I'm going to give it a try. I usually purchase pumice on eBay,
but I can probably source Permatill locally.
Thanks again for your help. I appreciate it.
Regards,
Bern
Williamsburg, VA Zone 7B
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2020 00:31:52 +0100
From: David Pilling <david@davidpilling.com>
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Hi Bern
On 15/07/2020 00:00, XYZ2 in Virginia via pbs wrote:
Thanks for your considered reply to my questions about Worsleya procera,
formerly W. procura. (It's W. procura in the PBS wiki.)
Oh no it is not (procura in the wiki). Google can't find any use of W.
"procura".
It will do shortly, we're pushing the boundaries of name space here.
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 19:59:15 -0400
From: "Jose" <arlen.jose@verizon.net>
To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
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Hey Bern,
I have been growing mine from seed that I got from a friend on another list
and I live in the Boston area where the summer is hot, humid, cool, dry and
rainy (take your pick). I have been growing mine in almost pure pumice with
just a little organic material mixed in. So far, it seems to be growing
quite well but still a few years away from flowering. I keep mine in partial
shade under my grape vine along with a pamianthe that is growing in a very
similar mix. In the fall, of course they all go inside and spend the winter
in my southern exposed, heated and enclosed porch along with my many other
hippeastrum and orchids and a bunch of other stuff. I hope this info helps a
bit. Oh, and in the summer I do fertilize them on a regular schedule with
20-20-20 about every two weeks or so and plenty of watering in between to
flush out any salt build up.
Regards,
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 19:00:31 -0500
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Hey all, Has anyone else tried using turface?
I use a lot of it. It's 1/3 of my cactus and succulent mix. I use it as
the substrate for my vivariums. I also germinate 95% of all seeds I grow,
including Lithops in it.
For my bulb mix, I use the above, and add coarse sand.
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 6:20 PM Paul Machado via pbs <
pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
Hey all, Has anyone else tried using turface?
I use it in my mixes for Worsleya and Nepenthes and it works great!
It is clay based and used mainly for baseball and track and field fields.
Here is a link to the product I use, MVP,
as it lets me know when the mix is starting to dry out and time to water!
https://turface.com/products/infield-conditioners/…
All the best,
Paul
Stevinson, CA
where it is 95 today!
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 4:00 PM XYZ2 in Virginia via pbs <
pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
Hey Nick,
Thanks for your considered reply to my questions about Worsleya procera,
formerly W. procura. (It's W. procura in the PBS wiki.) But, I'm happy
to
find out from Jane that the species name has been updated.
One more question....... What kind of container do you have your plant
potted in? Is it in an orchid box, net pot, clay pot, plastic pot,
other?
And thanks for mentioning Permatill. I had never heard of this amendment
before and I'm going to give it a try. I usually purchase pumice on
eBay,
but I can probably source Permatill locally.
Thanks again for your help. I appreciate it.
Regards,
Bern
Williamsburg, VA Zone 7B
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 20:34:42 -0400
From: "XYZ2 in Virginia" <867ykcor@cox.net>
To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Worsleya procera, was Worsleya procura
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Hey Paul,
What else besides turface MVP do you use in your potting mix for Worsleya?
Also, what kind of container do you use to plant them in? Will you provide
a bit of detail on your watering and fertilizing regimen, and any other
cultural and care requirements that you find successful?
Thanks,
Bern
Zone 7b Williamsburg, VA
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 6:20 PM Paul Machado via pbs <
pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net> wrote:
Hey all, Has anyone else tried using turface?
I use it in my mixes for Worsleya and Nepenthes and it works great!
It is clay based and used mainly for baseball and track and field fields.
https://turface.com/products/infield-conditioners/…
All the best,
Paul
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 20:41:40 -0400
From: "XYZ2 in Virginia" <867ykcor@cox.net>
To: "'Pacific Bulb Society'" <pbs@lists.pacificbulbsociety.net>
Subject: Re: [pbs] Worsleya procera
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Hi David,
I rechecked the wiki and Dr. Google and found out that you are correct. I
do not know how procura became stuck in my mind. Thank you for setting me
straight. I appreciate it.
Thanks again,
Bern
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Hi Bern
Oh no it is not (procura in the wiki). Google can't find any use of W.
"procura".
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