Re: Favorite Urls-PBS TOW OK, I've been in touch with the webmaster and the up-to-date url for the seed germination data put out by the Ontario Rock Garden Society is http://webhome.idirect.com/~jehan/Information/… That gets you both the key and the data. Here is a sample of the data: Calochortus barbatus G * rot if medium too moist, grow undisturbed for 2 y Calochortus macrocarpus G * ditto and the relevant key: G Sow @ 4C for 3 months, then place @ 20C for 3 months. * special care needed as described They have Calochortus tolmiei listed, but no germination data yet. Diane Whitehead